Bioshock infinite info needed

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I don't play Video games much. The last game I played through was portal 2, before that was portal, and prior to that I don't ever recall finishing any video game I started. I did do a lot of multiplayer FPS games in the late 90's, the last one I really spent any time in was unreal tournament.

However I need to play through bio shock infinite when it comes out for reasons which I'm not going to go into here.

I will be going over my system specs to make sure it's up to it, but not being used to the market I'm somewhat confused by the various editions and options available.

It appears there are three editions, standard, premium, and ultimate songbird, and on top of that there is something called a season pass on steam which appears to be DLC.

What is contained in each? How does each edition or the season pass affect gameplay? Are these just window dressing and behind the scenes, are they additional stories inside the same universe but not compelling to the main storyline, or do these contain portions of the game that one would need to include to consider having played the whole game? Is the amazon version different than the steam version?

Also, how much of my experience will be lessened by playing on a suboptimal machine? Right now it's a quad core i7 with 16gb of ram and a low end graphics card. I assume I'll need to update my graphics card, but will I miss out on anything if I don't go above and beyond the recommended specifications? (I already meet the minimum)

My preferred appliance is PC, but is the release to the Xbox or ps3 expected to be different in substantial ways, such that I should look at borrowing one for this?

Lastly, how many hours of gameplay are we talking about here? I understand the bio shock franchise is known for replayability, but for the initial run through and experience what should a typical gamer expect? I did portal 2 in about ten hours straight through the night it came out, which isn't great, but I don't expect I will be a particularly slow player. I certainly won't be attempting higher difficulty settings, though.
 
Also wondering if buying it as a digital download from amazon results in a steam key, or if I'll need to use some strange amazon game service to play the game.
 
Amazon usually gets you a Steam (or Origin if it's a newer EA game) key if it's digital. The Season Pass gives you access to all planned DLC.
 
Can't speak to the software side of things, but as for the PC hardware:
Your graphics card could definitely use an upgrade. Right now I recommend GeForce GTX 660 (NOT the "Ti" version) for those people who prefer NVIDIA, and the Radeon 7950 for those who prefer ATI. Both of them give you eyebrow-raising performance without going too far into hockey stick territory on the price. Your CPU and RAM look good, but you don't mention your OS. It almost goes without saying that you should be using Win7 64-bit if you are not already. For HDD, a SSD would be a good idea if you want to reduce disk access time. For pure speed, I currently recommend the OCZ Vertex 4.

--Patrick
 
As far as length of the game, there's no way of knowing that until the game is released and people actually play through it. If it's anything like the original Bioshock, I'd say the campaign should take 6-8 hours or so, depending on how proficient you are in FPS games.

As far as graphics go, if you're meeting the minimum, you'll be putting everything on it's very lowest setting. I just got a GTX 660 because the price dropped to under 300.00 recently, and it runs everything really well, including Crysis 3 and Max Payne 3.

Also, I just looked up the Amazon digital version and it looks like it is NOT the steam version. I'd recommend pre-ordering through Steam. Steam is running a pre-order promotion, where as people pre-order, more bonuses unlock. Right now, you get the original Bioshock on Steam, if it hits the top level of pre-orders, you will get X-Com Enemy Unknown (that's what pushed me to pre-order).
 
If you need a new graphics card, AMD is offering BioShock Infinite keys with purchase of certain Radeon cards.

As to game differences, the premium and ultimate editions carry three power-ups:

  • Bull Rush: Melee strikes from a sprint have a chance to knock the enemy down.
  • Extra! Extra!: Audio logs also grant a bounty of “Silver Eagles” — in-game currency.
  • Betrayer: Killing your possessed enemies causes them to explode in a fireball that deals damage.
 
The only game I've bought off Amazon digitally was Dragon Age 2, and the code had to be put in through Bioware's site or some nonsense (and ended up not working and I was refused a refund because it was digital). Personally I'd either do Steam or a hard copy from Amazon.
 

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Also, I just looked up the Amazon digital version and it looks like it is NOT the steam version. I'd recommend pre-ordering through Steam. Steam is running a pre-order promotion, where as people pre-order, more bonuses unlock. Right now, you get the original Bioshock on Steam, if it hits the top level of pre-orders, you will get X-Com Enemy Unknown (that's what pushed me to pre-order).
The Amazon version might come with a Steam code, because the game is set to use Steamworks for it's DRM. That said, not all games that use Steamworks are released only on Steam, and have a different version in the Amazon store. However, it seems pretty unlikely that Bioshock Infinte would release with a DRM-free version, and Ken Levine has been quoted as saying it will only use Steamworks for DRM. I don't see much reason to order from Amazon and not from Steam, though.

The Season Pass gives you access to all planned DLC.
Maybe not all. Most other games with season passes for DLC content have had only some DLC included in the pass. Generally all the new missions are included, but not all the additional weapons or other perks.
 
A lot of additional weapons/perks are pre-order/collector's edition items. To get absolutely everything, you'd need to pre-order copies of the game from multiple locations.

None of which is necessary.
 
I HATE THAT. HATE IT.

I am very much looking forward to Bioshock, but pre-ordering a season pass of DLC. Fuck that. Right in it's asshole.
 
Um... then don't get the season pass...

Season passes have been one of the better ideas for DLC. For those who are interested, you can pay less and get all the DLC at once.

I don't have any idea why someone would be pissed off about paying less for additional content.

If you're worried about them pulling an EA and having DLC be stripped out content, then go ahead and wait on getting the Season Pass, it's always available, even after the DLC comes out.
 
Um... then don't get the season pass...
You don't find this price ratcheting annoying?

One way to think of it is that they are truly giving you something new, and therefore it has value beyond the initial $60 game cost.

The other view is that they've only made the same amount of game they've always made, but then locked parts away and required an additional fee to access them, thus you are now paying $80 or more for what you used to get for $60 - it's purely a way to extract more money from the gamer.

We've had DLC discussions before, so I don't know that we need to rehash them here, but I can understand that which way you feel the company went is subjective, and believing that they are simply ratcheting up costs and giving players who won't pay the full cost a lessor experience is a valid feeling.

I think the only thing both sides have to agree on is that as we live in a capitalist society they are free to sell the game however they like and the gamers are allowed to buy it or not if they don't feel it's worth it.

That doesn't mean people shouldn't get angry and complain about their choice, though. Sadly, DLC provably increases the bottom line, so it's not going away anytime soon.

Happily, the game will be the same a year from now, and will likely be half off by Black Friday, so the only people that should truly be distressed are those for which instant gratification plays a big role in their game playing life.
 
Um... then don't get the season pass...

Season passes have been one of the better ideas for DLC. For those who are interested, you can pay less and get all the DLC at once.
A season pass isn't the worst thing, pre-ordering a season pass before the game is even out seems like outright lunacy to me.

Not that I'm comparing Irrational to say, the former THQ, but what about the people that bought the season pass to Darksiders 2 (which you can still buy from most outlets, despite both studio and publisher being no more and no one seems interested in the IP)? They never completed the promised amount of DLC there.

I don't preorder anything in this current gaming landscape of outright lies and broken promises. I never will again.

But that still doesn't mean it doesn't burn me up inside that because I don't choose to give publishers my money long in advance of receiving the product I'm getting the lesser version of the game (no matter how much more marginally so).
 
I totally understand the whole argument about content being stripped out and being held for DLC. That is straight up bullshit, but I have no idea why people think that additional content through DLC is any different then expansion packs were in the old days. Frank's idea that you are getting some sort of incomplete product if DLC exists after the release of the game is just plain ludicrous.
 
I totally understand the whole argument about content being stripped out and being held for DLC. That is straight up bullshit, but I have no idea why people think that additional content through DLC is any different then expansion packs were in the old days. Frank's idea that you are getting some sort of incomplete product if DLC exists after the release of the game is just plain ludicrous.
Borderlands 2 is a perfect example of Season Pass DLC done right.
 
I totally understand the whole argument about content being stripped out and being held for DLC. That is straight up bullshit, but I have no idea why people think that additional content through DLC is any different then expansion packs were in the old days. Frank's idea that you are getting some sort of incomplete product if DLC exists after the release of the game is just plain ludicrous.
It's because we've all become jaded by nearly every big name publisher/developer out there. Even when companies do DLC right, we still have flashbacks to horse armor and Capcom "on disc dlc" nightmares
 
I totally understand the whole argument about content being stripped out and being held for DLC. That is straight up bullshit, but I have no idea why people think that additional content through DLC is any different then expansion packs were in the old days. Frank's idea that you are getting some sort of incomplete product if DLC exists after the release of the game is just plain ludicrous.
I don't know where you think I'm talking about that.

What I meant is the pre-order bonuses from different retailers.
 
Pre order bonuses are fluff, and really, if not having a glowing shotgun, or whatever pisses you off that much, I don't know what to say.
 
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