What book are you currently reading?

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Just finished A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess. Really quite enjoyed it actually, especially the nadsat.
 
I decided on Dead Until Dark first, then I will read Hyperspace.

It is good so far, I am looking forward to seeing how it differs from the TV show.
It's quite different. The TV show adds a whole bunch that isn't even mentioned in the books (such as pretty much this whole Maryann storyline...) and changes some of the stuff that is. It's really best to think of them as separate entities, or you'll end up looking like Chaz's avatar.
 
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Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes arrived in the mail today, so I know what I'll be reading. :)

I need to hunt down a copy of Dostoyevky's The Brothers Karamazov at the library so I can finish it. I began reading it while visiting my parents this summer but had to return it before I went home again.

I read quite a few novels this summer and it feels good to read literature again. I've been so bogged down by course material the last years that I haven't read as much as I would have liked to. I will make an effort to read more this year.
 
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lafftaff

I just finished Bastard out of Carolina by Dorothy Allison & man, was it depressing.

I've been slowing making my way through 1776 by by David McCullough.
 
it isn't the Mormonism. It's the involvement in the National Organization for Marriage.
The man has a very traditional view of marriage, so what? I'm not sure I understand why disagreement on societal issues is grounds for disliking the man. I like both Richard Dawkins and Phillip Pullman (well, as much as one can without actually knowing them) and I would put money on them calling me a weak-minded fool because of my Christianity.
 
it isn't the Mormonism. It's the involvement in the National Organization for Marriage.
The man has a very traditional view of marriage, so what? I'm not sure I understand why disagreement on societal issues is grounds for disliking the man. I like both Richard Dawkins and Phillip Pullman (well, as much as one can without actually knowing them) and I would put money on them calling me a weak-minded fool because of my Christianity.[/QUOTE]

He thinks homosexuality is a mental condition based on childhood trauma...

Of course i read some stuff on Dawkings site where he made light of a priest fondling him as a youth, so i guess your comparison does work...
 
13 things that don't make sense. its a book about science.

yes, folks, this is what i do with my spare time. i am a social dynamo :-|
 
He thinks homosexuality is a mental condition based on childhood trauma...

Of course i read some stuff on Dawkings site where he made light of a priest fondling him as a youth, so i guess your comparison does work...
Galileo argued that the Moon could not possibly be responsible for the tides of the ocean.

I'm leaving this line of conversation there. I just don't have the energy for it right now, and besides, after being trolled my appetite for this conversation is quite diminished.
 
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He thinks homosexuality is a mental condition based on childhood trauma...

Of course i read some stuff on Dawkings site where he made light of a priest fondling him as a youth, so i guess your comparison does work...
Galileo argued that the Moon could not possibly be responsible for the tides of the ocean.

I'm leaving this line of conversation there. I just don't have the energy for it right now, and besides, after being trolled my appetite for this conversation is quite diminished.[/QUOTE]

"I'm just going to leave this here. I'm not going to actually assert anything, because I'm tired, and have recently been the victim of trolls. I won't actually go beyond making this this connection, because some people might view me as a bigot."

Of course, I'm sure that's a baseless strawman attack.
 
I've only got like 50 pages to go in "The Living Dead". Its an anthology of short zombie stories.

Its pretty hit or miss. Some of them aren't even about brain eating zombies!
 
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Dusty668

Empire from the Ashes - by David Weber

This is the entire Mutineers Moon series in one book.

World War Z was a great read, gave me a lot to think about, zombie wise. Also one day at work I came up with a great zombie filter plan.
 
i'm currently reading Iron Council, by China Mieville, and its rather fun. i loved the previous two books in the series he wrote (perdido street station, and the scar). I really like the thoroughly messed up (and awesome) creations he's come up with, like the 'construct council', a steam-powered AI that propagates itself through a virus distributed by doctored punch cards, and the entire underclass of victims of mad science experiments, called 'remade'.

also
eight foot high predatory moths that eat dreams/sentience, leaving you alive, but completely braindead.
 
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coolbeans

Altered carbon, by richard morgan.

Cyberpunky detective novel goodness
 
He thinks homosexuality is a mental condition based on childhood trauma...

Of course i read some stuff on Dawkings site where he made light of a priest fondling him as a youth, so i guess your comparison does work...
Galileo argued that the Moon could not possibly be responsible for the tides of the ocean.

I'm leaving this line of conversation there. I just don't have the energy for it right now, and besides, after being trolled my appetite for this conversation is quite diminished.[/quote]

"I'm just going to leave this here. I'm not going to actually assert anything, because I'm tired, and have recently been the victim of trolls. I won't actually go beyond making this this connection, because some people might view me as a bigot."

Of course, I'm sure that's a baseless strawman attack.[/QUOTE]

What's a straw man attack?! Are you the alt JCM was boasting of having a while back or something?


@Rob

Someone's opinion is a valid reason for not liking that person...
 
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Alex B.

I just read Iron Council! It was fantastic. Now I'm reading Perdido Street Station. Backwards, I know, but I don't think it makes a difference.

Also reading the first Proof trade. Good stuff.
 

Shannow

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For shits and giggles, and since its a slow day here in the office, I downloaded and am going through all of Battle Pope
 

figmentPez

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What's a straw man attack?
A strawman argument is when you falsely represent alternate viewpoints in able make them seem easy to defeat. To provide a fictional caricature of the concept: There is a proposition up for vote to provide legal aid for indigent dachshunds. The Whig party opposes the bill because it has some unusual clauses that would provide for declaring gingerbread men an endangered species. The Federalist party supports the bill entirely, so they set up this strawman "The Whig party opposes the PLAID bill because they're anti-dog! The don't want poor little doggies to get the legal representation that is their right!" It's easy to critize people for taking something away from cute little wiener dogs, so they attack the false opponent they've created, it goes down, and they look heroic, while the real issue goes unaddressed.

Naturally real-life strawmen are usually, but not always, at least a little more subtle.
 
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redapples

Finished Sirens of Titan and couldn't find my copy of Flag of Our Fathers so grabbed East of Eden on the way out the house. Its been cluttering my bookshelf for several years now. So far so good.
 
I'm early in my 6th or 7th re-reading of the Vorkosigan saga by Lois McMaster Bujold.

Currently I'm right in the middle of The Vor Game, which along with Memory is one of my absolute favourites.
 
Putting off Anansi Boys because I picked up my Howl's Moving Castle book and it's proving to be a quick read, being a young adult's book and all.

Boyfriend has almost read through the whole Dresden File series and is reading Butcher's other fantasy books. They don't look too interesting, but I will give them a try if I plow through my next two books.
 

fade

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What's a straw man attack?
A strawman argument is when you falsely represent alternate viewpoints in able make them seem easy to defeat. To provide a fictional caricature of the concept: There is a proposition up for vote to provide legal aid for indigent dachshunds. The Whig party opposes the bill because it has some unusual clauses that would provide for declaring gingerbread men an endangered species. The Federalist party supports the bill entirely, so they set up this strawman "The Whig party opposes the PLAID bill because they're anti-dog! The don't want poor little doggies to get the legal representation that is their right!" It's easy to critize people for taking something away from cute little wiener dogs, so they attack the false opponent they've created, it goes down, and they look heroic, while the real issue goes unaddressed.

Naturally real-life strawmen are usually, but not always, at least a little more subtle.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, though, since that link detailing debate fallacies went around the web circuit, people think they're experts in the fallacies. To wit, I see people throwing the "straw man" term at just about any analogy, which is a ...um... fallacious fallacy? Analogies are perfectly valid tactics. When I see people use the term "straw man" to "refute" a particularly biting analogy, all I can think of is Jim Carrey in Liar, Liar:

"Objection!"
"On what grounds?"
"Because it's extremely damaging to my case!"
 
Should be finishing Iron Council this weekend, then I'm starting House of Suns by Alastair Reynolds.
 
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Philosopher B.

Having read the awesome-tastic Welcome to the Jungle, I decided I needed me more of this Jim Butcher fellow, so I picked up Storm Front. Can't wait to get inside it.
 
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